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, that's one of the things i'm not on the hot seat about. that's part of the u.k. member firm. >> of course, this is an issue at the form. it's a big deal. >> it's important to us. unfortunately, we can't comment on that. our member firm has put out a statement. we believe we held up to professional standards. >> during that time, there was no questioning on the part of hewlett-packard in terms of saying, hey, did you find anything? it just seems like it came up from nothing. now all the sudden it's fraud with this $8 billion write down. >> again, i can't comment on it. i wish i could, but i cannot. >> all right. let me move on to your meeting with the president about the fiscal cliff. >> sure. it was optimistic. president very inclusive of business. he was open to a broad set of solutions that included all aspects, not just revenue, but spending and entitlement reform. >> so you actually felt that you saw a difference. you say it wasn't always like that. you saw a difference in the president in terms of listening and perhaps taking advice on what's to be done fiscally? >> the
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